Phil Deakins Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Yesterday and today I have been unable to load the SL website. For instance, clicking the logo on the top-left of this page normally takes me to the site's homepage or to the login page, but now it takes me to a totally white page with the Title "OpenId transaction in progress". Typing http://www.secondlife.com/ into the address bar does exactly the same. Is it just me or is there a fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Mokusei Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 No fault on http://secondlife.com, tested with and without login processing (via https://secondlife.com/auth/oid_return.php). Suggest disabling your content/ad blocking software. If this doesn't work, profile your browser - check cookies, AJAX, encrypted > unencrypted redirects and mixed (encrypted/unencrypted) content is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerie Inshan Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 No fault for me Phil. So... it has to be yours! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 I've turned off ad blocking and I can now get to the main SL website. It's odd that it suddenly went wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 valerie Inshan wrote: No fault for me Phil. So... it has to be yours! :P With a face like you have, there can be no fault for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerie Inshan Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Phil Deakins wrote: valerie Inshan wrote: No fault for me Phil. So... it has to be yours! :P With a face like you have, there can be no fault for you :smileyembarrassed::heart: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Mokusei Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Phil Deakins wrote: It's odd that it suddenly went wrong though. Probably learning mechanisms inside the filter - create an exception to resolve. Secondlife.com frequently profiles as almost 100% spam content (insert appropriate shock, horror) - the forums had a huge spike of your reported issue immediately after ads were added to secondlife.com/my/ Recommend against automated filters that you 'fire and forget', you can't tell what's being hidden and what's still running, what works and what doesn't. I know I've said this before though, so YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 The ad blocking I was using is built into the IE browser, so I just disabled it. I had originally played with filtering but no ad-blocking is enabled now and I don't think I'll play with any again for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Mokusei Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 secondlife.com fails compatibility tests for IE, which may be a contributing factor. It is not really recommended, as IE will probably fail when changing account information. Mostly it's just dangerous to allow machines to filter content without your explicit say-so. Once you submit to code as authority it's a difficult trap to escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drongle McMahon Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 This was happening sporadically some time ago. After initially thinking it was LL trying to couteract ad-blocking, I came round to thinking it was specific ads that were causing blank pag redirects if they were blocked from display. That fitted with the intermittent occurence better, so it only happened when certain ads were sent. I found several online descriptions of that kind of anti-adblock strategy. Didn't keep links - sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 It's all ben a bit strange lately. Suddenly, the ads would start to show. I've seen it before but it's ben happening more lately. I have a reason for wanting to see the ads now, so I'm happy to remove the blocking - and I can now get to the SL site, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 <snark> people still use IE? that's almost as horrible as someone using the official viewer! </snark> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 LOL. I *do* use the official viewer I think the anti-IE and anti-LL viewer attitudes are much more to do with a sort of bandwagon and nothing to do with sense or reality. Out of interest, everyone uses the LL viewer. A lot use a modified version of it, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Mokusei Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Phil Deakins wrote: I think the anti-IE and anti-LL viewer attitudes are much more to do with a sort of bandwagon and nothing to do with sense or reality. Mostly right. If you don't mind a bit of subjective history, read on... IE did a couple of things to earn my personal ire; mostly it insisted (up until IE8.0, though the 'Compatibility View' is bass-ackwards too) on using a purposefully broken implementation of CSS. This meant that anyone wanting to get a consistant appearance across all browsers would need to use hacks to get it to work. Additionally - for anyone within the EU - MSFT went to the wall to try and keep its strangehold over the PC market by bundling IE in with their OS. This prevented the growth of better browsers that obeyed the informal 'rules' of the WWW. They were quite famously defeated during the early 2000s, and instantly lost their majority marketshare. As far as I'm concerned, this is a life sentence. They're personal issues sure, but they're very much founded in reality - I guess it's comparable to a boycott. I am personally against 'bandwagoning', and try to avoid including my personal feelings along with recommendations. The good news is that my opinion of Opera, Firefox and Chrome is not much higher - they all have histories and issues which make them objectionable. Browsers are mostly a case of using the one that causes me the least annoyance. LL have reconciled their own feelings on IE by taking the (slightly awkward, but still accepted) approach of NOT using any of these hacks, and this is what leads to spotty performance on secondlife.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Levenque Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Perrie Juran wrote: <snark> people still use IE? that's almost as horrible as someone using the official viewer! </snark> A Martian browser snob? Astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 I'm (almost) right with you there, Freya, but I'd write it a bit differently I was delighted when Netscape folded because, up until then (I wasn't on the web before IE was launched), we had to create webpages for the two main browsers (IE and NS), and, of course, for one or two back versions of each of them. That annoyed me, especially when NS went their own idiotic way with NS4. At that point, there was only IE that was worth catering for. It was the only browser in town that had more than a few users, and it could be rightly said that IE was 'the standard'. IE implemented some of the W3C recommendation differently to what W3C recommended, but IE was the standard because it was the only major browser. Other browsers came along and they ought to have done things in the 'standard' way but they didn't. In fact, W3C ought to have altered their recommendations to match the standards of the time. If either of those things had happened, then the need to do things for different browsers wouldn't have happened again. It's my guess that the anti-IE attitude got in the way even then. E.g. "Why should MS dictate things?" No browser implements all of the W3C recommendations, and if one browser implements something that other browsers don't, which is always the case, and the web designer wants to use that something, then pages have to be made that accommodate the various browsers. That's even if IE didn't exist. Of the browsers you mentioned, Opera has been around the longest and it still hasn't taken off, so there's never a need to mention it or cater for it I have no objections to MS including IE with Windows. Something has to be included or it would be a bit silly to sell an operating mass system without the ability to get on the web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Phil Deakins wrote: LOL. I *do* use the official viewer I think the anti-IE and anti-LL viewer attitudes are much more to do with a sort of bandwagon and nothing to do with sense or reality. Out of interest, everyone uses the LL viewer. A lot use a modified version of it, that's all. Likewise, everyone uses a Browser that is based on code approved by whoever it is that is responsible for approving all the code the interwebs work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 There isn't anyone or anything that's responsible for approving all the code that the interwebz works with. You might mean protocols. If you do, all browsers adhere to the internet's communications protocols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Dillon Levenque wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: <snark> people still use IE? that's almost as horrible as someone using the official viewer! </snark> A Martian browser snob? Astonishing. Well, Google already owns enough of my soul that I refuse to even try Chrome. I've been using Firefox almost since its advent. Tabbed browsing to me was the cat's meow and then add on's to customize it to my likings sealed the deal. Years ago I had a search app that utilized frames so when I entered a search term it opened the results from Google and from Yahoo side by side. That at the time gave me very well rounded search results. I didn't get only the results Google thought I should be getting. It was very cool. So yes, I might be a little snobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Phil Deakins wrote: There isn't anyone or anything that's responsible for approving all the code that the interwebz works with. You might mean protocols. If you do, all browsers adhere to the internet's communications protocols. yes, that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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