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A call for less surviallence of users, even though I am not a tech corporation.


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Yeah, whoever you are...knock it off, 'right! Just stop. Watch you back if you back needs watched, but perv on the neighbours misus and you deserve a black eye, K....mr. smarty pans!

I am not entirely joking, just putting it in perspective that sometimes they are not watching thier back...and if they are, they are claiming we all have a reason to terrorize them and since we could not have possibly been engaged in such things (all, but some of you may have...who knows! I am not though, so don't' get any ideas) and...yeah, let's see...yeah, they must be doing something the majority of people dislike.

So, if we dislike it, and users are being watched who don't deserve it or in ways to excessive (that is why tech companies complained about it, according to the news story title I saw) then basically they must have done something bad, other than spy.

So, what is it they are doing? Most people figure Hitler was worth killing, or at least attacking or stopping. Since terrorism is not usually only about killing a 'wrong doer' and about effecting change by terrorizing (it has effects military related, such as increase in still births from stress and destruction of useful resources) we must suppose that it is terrorism or Hitleresque mass secret murdering. Either way they are trying to do us all harm, and are so hell bent on it that we would resort to terrorizing them and thier supporters, or at least interactants.

Since terrorism related to 9/11 was mostly aiimed at world trade organization buildings, symbolism NOT the main thing because it was also one of the strongest buildings and a proving ground of technique to world wide organizations, even attempts at leaderless resistance may have benifited from this more so...but, yeah....not aimed specifically at all countries involved (Bin Laden said kill all americans when he was interviewed years before 9/11 and a spec ops raid was cancelled as they continued to track him in afghanistan) and and.....yeah, they are guilty by thier actions to protect themselves.

They claim this about people with suspicious activities or mental processes. If you hide, you must be doing something worth watching. If you don't, you are not involved BUT could be just pretending...so you need to be watched as well.

 

Since no one is saying it....I speak for non of them when I say this, but yes, stop it. it is to much....I am not sure how much, but they know more than I do.:smileymad:<- rrr, face the confused rage smiley like a man and say sorry to it...I am done with you all, talk to the smiley!

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The internet age has brought in many advantages to modern technology and easier learning but it also comes with an price and that's un-regulated privacy.

The internet is basically like international waters; technically you can be arrested if you hack or break the rules but if you're from another country or county it's nearly impossible to catch them and arrest them without an treaty agreement or information since anyone can become annoymous.

I do agree that all monitoring of civil casualty should stop and all companies should be enforced to follow an set of standards which regulate what information they can and can not use. We have something like this in place but not effective enough for what we're referring to.

However if you want to see what information agencies have about you; you can request an release of information under the U.S.C. 552a


Ideally, this could be solved by allowing users to select which information they don't want to legally disclose to companies upon registeration. An web standard if you will.

However it would be extremely difficult to regulate a billion sites and enforce that law upon them when many aren't located in the US or other countries.

Also keep in mind that almost all countries in the world have some sort of monitoring program in place; you just don't hear about them because they haven't been yet exposed.

 

Hope this helps.

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JustBecauseICanBeFriendly wrote:

However if you want to see what information agencies have about you; you can request an release of information under the U.S.C. 552a

 

Ideally, this could be solved by allowing users to select which information they don't want to legally disclose to companies upon registeration. An web standard if you will.

However it would be extremely difficult to regulate a billion sites and enforce that law upon them when many aren't located in the US or other countries.

Also keep in mind that almost all countries in the world have some sort of monitoring program in place; you just don't hear about them because they haven't been yet exposed.

 

Hope this helps.

Well, the agencies can then decline to release that information, claiming unspecified "national security implications".

And it gets worse when things get international. If a German user subscribing to a Swedish ISP with its switches in Denmark connects to a Canada hosted website owned by a US based company through a router in the UK owned by a French network operator, what country's law applies to the data and why? (and yes, such things happen).

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jwenting wrote:

 

And it gets worse when things get international. If a German user subscribing to a Swedish ISP with its switches in Denmark connects to a Canada hosted website owned by a US based company through a router in the UK owned by a French network operator, what country's law applies to the data and why? (and yes, such things happen).

I think it has been satisfactorily established that the relevant authorities couldn't care a **** about the law.

They care about getting caught.

Which embarrasses them slightly, but little more.

**********Rudi**********

ETA Actually, they do care about the law, but only to use it to get at those who have embarrassed them.

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I don't really care if people are snooping on my internet activity, in RL or SL.  I'd rather they didn't but I can't get too worked up about the possibility that they might be snooping.

I've always assumed that:

a)  Individuals, agencies or internet organisations have the ability to snoop on internet users and probably do so.

b) The likelihood that anyone is snooping on me at any time is very low.

c)  If someone is snooping on me, they will soon get bored and snoop on someone else instead.

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c)  If someone is snooping on me, they will soon get bored and snoop on someone else instead.

To me this sounds like the explanation most germans gave us after WW2: "I kept my mouth shut coz I wasn't a jew, a gypsy or a socialist ... and I never thought things would turn out so bad in the end." That style of ignorance made it very posssible for the worst things to happen. So better brace yourself, winter is coming. No, it's not coming, the latest NSA actions are already the first blizzards.

Many of your un-american fellow resis have warned you about the USA and UK becoming fascist countries. All the signs and historical refernces are already in place, it has actually started. And all I hear is a "HOO! \o/ Calm down, you hysterical commie propaganda cow and let's party."

:smileysad:

 

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