Storm Clarence Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Improving your relationship with your SL pets.No SLpet is perfect, but some SLpets have more problems than you care to deal with. Maybe the fault is strictly the owners—you simply don’t have time for that rowdy SLdog behavior after a long day in-world creating dresses, or you shouldn’t have adopted a sixth SLcat when you rent 512sqm on mainland. Maybe it feels like the SLpets fault—she/he's untrainable, too aggressive, too dumb, too mean. But before you reach the decision to disown a SLpet, examine all the alternatives for improving the relationship. In your exhaustion, you may have forgotten that there are resource to call on when you become overwhelmed by your SLdogs aggression or your SLcats behavior whenever a visitor TP's over. Don’t give up until you’ve tried them!Isn't it important to nurture and befriend our SLPets?ETA Do you think people who treat their pets poorly wil eventually treat their friends poorly - in any type of relationship? I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowl Paine Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Storm Clarence wrote: ETA Do you think people who treat their pets poorly wil eventually treat their friends poorly - in any type of relationship? I do. Yes, I do but I didn't realize it until you mentioned it. ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I go to extraordinary lengths to improve the relationship I have with my pet. I tend to prefer pets to people - in RL as well as SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Petrov Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Studies have shown that the vast majority of serial killers started by abusing animals. The RL cats that I have adopted were formerly abused. Damage to psyche can be done whether human or animal. I have a SL cat named after a cat I used to have because they look similar -- Daniel. He does not require feeding and sits in my inventory most of the time but I know he is there if I ever need a reason to pet a pixel animal. There's comfort in that knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Petrov Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Awesome photos, Mari! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Thanks, Venus, and I loved your story about Daniel's background. You are right, they do say serial killers often started by being abusers of animals. I dug out a really old photo of my cat Colin. I bought him from a pet store. He was the runt of the litter, so he loves affection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewee Musytari Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Where is that pic taken Marigold? It looks like RL Brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 It does look like real life Brighton sea front. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Animazoo%20animations/180/41/27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Um, we're talking scripted prim pets, right? lol No, I wouldn't coddle and nurture my prim pet, if I owned one. And I don't buy my computer birthday presents either. Are you not entirely comfortable with this whole "Identity and Relationships Forum" thing, Storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewee Musytari Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Marigold Devin wrote: It does look like real life Brighton sea front. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Animazoo%20animations/180/41/27 Sure does, I shall go visit hehe ...ty sweetie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerie Inshan Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 In SL (as in RL) one of the first things I love to do in the morning (just after my coffee) is to pet my animals. The SL ones don't need to be nurtured (I am not into this breedable pets thing) but they seem to enjoy being stroked as much as I love petting them. No matter the prim count, each time I moved in a new home, they were the first to be installed. They are a touch of relaxing and tender presence in all the places I've lived for 3 years in SL and are much more worth than any damn prims eater jacuzzi or helicopter I'll never use! And, yes, Storm : "people who treat their pets poorly wil eventually treat their friends poorly" I believe so. @ Mari: I greatly agree with you! ETA: When I'm rich, i want a full prim sim to have a zoo of my own.:smileytongue: PS: This is my latest RL one, Greta joined my home 2 days ago:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I'm loving this light-hearted thread. Forgive me if I just want some calm in my SL. My RL, unfortunately, is rarely calm, so I, for one, am relishing a Sunday of reflecting about SL (and RL) pets, present and past. I am sure you meant this thread in a very light-hearted way, too. Sonnenschein, in this picture, is not a pet, as such, just one of the many breedable horses to be found in SL. I am not a great fan, I will say, it kind of reminds me of pyramid selling, but it just was really funny to me, when I arrived at the ranch, and Sonnenschein appeared to just walk right up to me. (Zufall!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Gorgeous photos, valerie. If you get rich enough, I want to come and work for you on that full sim zoo! Something a lot of us in SL have in common; we have pets in SL that are copies of pets we have/had/know in RL. The blurring of the line that separates RL and SL. And I forgot to answer that particular question from Storm, but yes, I believe also that people who have little regard for their pets and treat them badly, will also treat other people the same way. They say people should start with a pot plant first, and if they can keep that alive, then they should move onto a small animal, then larger animal, like a dog or a cat, and then if all goes well they are possibly ready to embark on a ltr with a person. In SL and in RL I believe this to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clarence Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Scylla Rhiadra wrote: Are you not entirely comfortable with this whole "Identity and Relationships Forum" thing, Storm? Au contraire! I am the most comfortable with my identity, sexual identity, and self confidence. I, like you, write about relationships. My apologies if I did not post to the LBTGI thread - I can not identify with this group. Don't forget, in SL, some pets are people, too. ETA - I could not relate to theI 'toe nail polish' thread in this same forum - do I need to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Storm Clarence wrote: Scylla Rhiadra wrote: Are you not entirely comfortable with this whole "Identity and Relationships Forum" thing, Storm? Au contraire! I am the most comfortable with my identity, sexual identity, and self confidence. I, like you, write about relationships. My apologies if I did not post to the LBTGI thread - I can not identify with this group. Don't forget, in SL, some pets are people, too. ETA - I could not relate to theI 'toe nail polish' thread in this same forum - do I need to? Some pets in SL are indeed people. And that would make an entirely apposite discussion in this forum; maybe you should adjust your OP to make it clearer that it is this that you are discussing, and not scripted pets? It might make it less likely that this thread will be moved elsewhere, as being essentially irrelevant to the point of this forum. In the meantime, I'll happily buy into Marigold's suggestion that this is merely a light-hearted thread, even if the implicit suggestion that the relationship between two people is somehow the same as the relationship between a person and a scripted collection of coloured sculpties is, at least potentially, a mite offensive, and might be seen as mocking the main purpose of this forum. And no, I have no idea what painted toenails have to do with anything either. ETA: I just skimmed through the toenail thread; there is actually a very interesting connection, in light of the J. Crew ad being alluded to in the OP and title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clarence Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Scylla Rhiadra wrote: Some pets in SL are indeed people. And that would make an entirely apposite discussion in this forum; maybe you should adjust your OP to make it clearer that it is this that you are discussing, and not scripted pets? It might make it less likely that this thread will be moved elsewhere, as being essentially irrelevant to the point of this forum. In the meantime, I'll happily buy into Marigold's suggestion that this is merely a light-hearted thread, even if the implicit suggestion that the relationship between two people is somehow the same as the relationship between a person and a scripted collection of coloured sculpties is, at least potentially, a mite offensive, and might be seen as mocking the main purpose of this forum. And no, I have no idea what painted toenails have to do with anything either. I will not change my OP. I would like to take this discussion in any direction the responders take it. PS I am of the belief that you can tell a lot about a person on how they form relationships with pets. If I have a date TP over to my mainland parcel and she decides to kick my dog because he is staring at us while we use some dance pose balls; I have issues. It would be my last date with her. PPS If you feel you would like this thread moved - please request the mods to do so. I am sure you know the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Storm Clarence wrote: Scylla Rhiadra wrote: Some pets in SL are indeed people. And that would make an entirely apposite discussion in this forum; maybe you should adjust your OP to make it clearer that it is this that you are discussing, and not scripted pets? It might make it less likely that this thread will be moved elsewhere, as being essentially irrelevant to the point of this forum. In the meantime, I'll happily buy into Marigold's suggestion that this is merely a light-hearted thread, even if the implicit suggestion that the relationship between two people is somehow the same as the relationship between a person and a scripted collection of coloured sculpties is, at least potentially, a mite offensive, and might be seen as mocking the main purpose of this forum. And no, I have no idea what painted toenails have to do with anything either. I will not change my OP. I would like to take this discussion in any direction the responders take it. PS I am of the belief that you can tell a lot about a person on how they form relationships with pets. If I have a date TP over to my mainland parcel and she decides to kick my dog because he is staring at us while we use some dance pose balls; I have issues. It would be my last date with her. PPS If you feel you would like this thread moved - please request the mods to do so. I am sure you know the process. I have no desire to have this thread moved, Storm. And I'm afraid, as it is something I've never attempted, that I don't have any idea of the process involved, beyond that it probably involves an RIC or whatever the heck they're called. Someone who is cruel to a real pet, or a real person playing a pet, is probably a jerk. Someone who is cruel to an animated bundle of prims may be a jerk, and is mostly probably an idiot, but it is otherwise not at all the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clarence Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Scylla Rhiadra wrote: Someone who is cruel to a real pet, or a real person playing a pet, is probably a jerk. Someone who is cruel to an animated bundle of prims may be a jerk, and is mostly probably an idiot, but it is otherwise not at all the same thing. I agree. The corollary is the same: I would not care to friend 'this' individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mila Edelman Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 For some reason, your post reminded me of the pet chicken I had (not the Sion chicken). I had no relationship with it, but it did make me laugh. For my first store, "Henrietta," was allowed to wander around in the store. If people clicked on her too much, she got annoyed and laid an egg. When I rebuilt my much bigger shop, I upgraded to a peacock. His name is "Fred." He wanders a path in the front of my shop. Still no relationship, but they make me giggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Mila Edelman wrote: For some reason, your post reminded me of the pet chicken I had (not the Sion chicken). I had no relationship with it, but it did make me laugh. For my first store, "Henrietta," was allowed to wander around in the store. If people clicked on her too much, she got annoyed and laid an egg. When I rebuilt my much bigger shop, I upgraded to a peacock. His name is "Fred." He wanders a path in the front of my shop. Still no relationship, but they make me giggle. Hi Mila :-) It may be that I am still badly scarred by the experience of spending nearly a year helping a friend with her Sion chickens. I built chicken coops and enclosures, and spent an awful lot of time searching for the chicks when someone left the coop door open (as someone inevitably did). I also spent an unconscionable amount of money feeding the little ******s. I hope that my lack of affection for those chickens does not, however, make me a "bad" person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Hi Mila :-) It may be that I am still badly scarred by the experience of spending nearly a year helping a friend with her Sion chickens. I built chicken coops and enclosures, and spent an awful lot of time searching for the chicks when someone left the coop door open (as someone inevitably did). I also spent an unconscionable amount of money feeding the little ******s. I hope that my lack of affection for those chickens does not, however, make me a "bad" person. You fed 'em, you searched for 'em, you tried to look after them - and isn't it madness how we do sometimes get sucked into certain situations in SL. But your basic goodness came through, if not for the chickens, certainly for the friend with whom you shared this particular project in SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clarence Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Marigold Devin wrote: You fed 'em, you searched for 'em, you tried to look after them - and isn't it madness how we do sometimes get sucked into certain situations in SL. But your basic goodness came through, if not for the chickens, certainly for the friend with whom you shared this particular project in SL. Bonding through our animals and pets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mila Edelman Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Nooo no, it doesn't make you a bad person. I don't even like Sion Chickens. A good friend of mine had a neighbor who ended up griefing her with those darn things, in an attempt to get her to sell her land. While I don't blame THAT action on the makers of Sion, they were the tool used to do it. My chicken was not, in fact, a Sion Chicken. I made sure of that when I bought her. She required no feeding and existed purely to amuse me and my customers (and she did that) As a professional programmer, I have a real issue with any scripted object telling me to feed, water or otherwise care for it. Much of my professional career has been spent automating tasks I don't want to do. So for me, personally, I won't be letting a scripted object take me in the opposite direction. I have four standard Dachshunds (3 former show longhairs, one shorthair rescue) in real life that require enough attention. Same with scripted pets that require care, I'm also not a fan of prim babies, especially those that require care (but honestly, also, 'any'). To show my contempt, I modified my old "Lemming Launcher" (thank YOU, Cela, for that wonderful gift) to launch prim babies that say "OH NO!" and then *pop* and disappear. It's a favorite at 1920's Berlin's quarterly Relaxed Rules Day (anyone wanting one, send me a message in-world and I'll send you one). But, yeah. I have enough expenses and enough duties with my business. I don't want to add "feeding and watering a fake chicken" to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Marigold Devin wrote: Hi Mila :-) It may be that I am still badly scarred by the experience of spending nearly a year helping a friend with her Sion chickens. I built chicken coops and enclosures, and spent an awful lot of time searching for the chicks when someone left the coop door open (as someone inevitably did). I also spent an unconscionable amount of money feeding the little ******s. I hope that my lack of affection for those chickens does not, however, make me a "bad" person. You fed 'em, you searched for 'em, you tried to look after them - and isn't it madness how we do sometimes get sucked into certain situations in SL. But your basic goodness came through, if not for the chickens, certainly for the friend with whom you shared this particular project in SL. Well, I think that is the key. The woman I was helping was a much loved and valued friend. The chickens were merely one way in which I could demonstrate my friendship for her. And, actually, building the chicken coop was kind of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Mila Edelman wrote: As a professional programmer, I have a real issue with any scripted object telling me to feed, water or otherwise care for it. Much of my professional career has been spent automating tasks I don't want to do. Well, I'm not a programmer, professional or otherwise, but yes . . . I don't want my tools telling me what to do. That verges on the creepy. (Shades of Hal 9000?) Mila Edelman wrote: Same with scripted pets that require care, I'm also not a fan of prim babies, especially those that require care (but honestly, also, 'any'). To show my contempt, I modified my old "Lemming Launcher" (thank YOU, Cela, for that wonderful gift) to launch prim babies that say "OH NO!" and then *pop* and disappear. It's a favorite at 1920's Berlin's quarterly Relaxed Rules Day (anyone wanting one, send me a message in-world and I'll send you one). ROFL!!!! Oh that's terrible. I shouldn't laugh . . . :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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